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i've been trying to get a refund from that company for months, but it's like talking to a brick wall. yang li: 第一個(gè)人聽起來好像是妻子在抱怨丈夫，告訴他不要那么拼命地干，可是他丈夫就是不聽。
neil: in this real english programme we'll be looking at an english idiom.
yang li: 還有對(duì)應(yīng)的漢語成語。
neil: today's english idiom is: it's like talking to a brick wall!
yang li: 什么意思呢？
neil: well this idiom is used to say that something is totally pointless and that you are not achieving anything.
yang li: 這就是說，白費(fèi)功夫，沒有結(jié)果，因此是徒勞的努力。
neil: it's like talking to a brick wall!
yang li: 字面意思是對(duì)著石墻說話。
neil: do you have an equivalent idiom in chinese?
yang li: i think so. 漢語中我們說，對(duì)牛彈琴。
neil: let's hear some examples of people using this idiom in conversation.
example
a: i've tried to tell him not to work so hard, but it's like talking to a brick wall.
b: i've been trying to get a refund from that company for months, but it's like talking to a brick wall.
yang li: 第一個(gè)人聽起來好像是妻子在抱怨丈夫，告訴他不要那么拼命地干，可是他丈夫就是不聽。
neil: it's like talking to a brick wall.
yang li: 第二個(gè)人好像是抱怨他一直在追一項(xiàng)什么退款，可是這個(gè)公司始終就不理睬。
neil: it's like talking to a brick wall. this idiom is usually used when talking about communication of some sort which isn't working.
yang li: 同某人交流，但是對(duì)方根本不明白你的意思。
neil: so to recap the english idiom is: it's like talking to a brick wall.
yang li: 漢語中我們說，這是對(duì)牛彈琴。
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